Insurance and prominent 110%

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Armagedo
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Hi!

This isn't pure LC related topic.

But I would be very appreciative on getting some answers&/clarifications.

Insurance policy covering "MIN 110% of the contract value of the goods"

This is the common demand for the CIF term documentation.

As far as I'm newbye for all this insurance things I was faced with some misunderstandings while start to deal with insurance.

Let's take CIF value of the goods as 100USD.

This is the contract, "real" value of the goods which I as Seller (or my Buyer) would like to reimburse in case of any material loss.

For what those 10% serve?

What is their meaning?

Is it correct that insurance company will return me 110USD instead of my real loss of 100USD?

What is the base for asking, let's say, "extra insurance value"?

 

I would be very appreciative on having professional tour on this from anyone :)))))

 

Thank You.

 

T P Udayasankar
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Amount of insurance insufficient

One of the bankers in Korea took a stand recently that the amount of insurance is insuffient (though the amount is correct) quoting ICC opinion R468. Do any one clarify, what is this opinion R468? What does it implicate? Can an opening bank take shelter under this opinion to reject a document or delay payment?

Frammi
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I found something in art. 188 of ISBP 470 concerning UCP 500

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188. An
insurance document must be issued in the currency of, and as a minimum for the
amount required by, the credit. If a credit does not state a minimum percentage
amount, then the minimum insurance amount must be 110% of the CIF value, or
110% of CIP value. A requirement for “Insurance for 110%”, or the like, is
deemed to be the minimum amount of insurance coverage required.  The UCP does not provide for any maximum
percentage. (ICC Opinion R 468).

 

 

As far as I know by heart
it only contains that insurances may exceed 110% but may not be less than 110%.
Maybe somone has a soft copy and can give help?

In my eyes - if the cover
is for at least 110%, the Korean position is not sound and is not supported by
standard banking practice.

   -Each long
journey starts with a small step-

Best regards

Frammi

 

pan
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insurance 110%

It is normal in business to consider 10% as refund of lost gain in selling the goods that have been destroyed, so 100 is CIF value and 10% a minimal refund for the work that the importer has met in this unfair occasion.

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mautzu
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insurance

Each insurance policy is different. For exemple:                 <a  href="http://www.cia-landlords.co.uk/tenant-types/landlords-insurance-for-professionals.aspx">Landlords Insurance</a> policy will cover the building itself with the option of including the contents left within. The policy will normally cover standard perils such as fire, lightning, explosion, earthquake, storm, flood, escape of water/oil, subsidence, theft and malicious damage.Most companies will provide the option to have extra cover on top of what is considered the standard cover.

Armagedo
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Thanks. But...

Hi!

The question is not whether it's common or not...

Of course, it is common:

1/ as per INCOTERMS CIF term obliges Seller to arrange insurance policy in favour of the Buyer for MINIMUM 110% OF THE CONTRACT VALUE OF THE GOODS (if other not agreed in contract)

consequently the same is in UCP

2/ If not otherwise stated in LC, insurance policy to cover at least 110% of the CIF or CIP value of the goods

Thus, of course, it is "common".

My questions are rather WHY and FOR WHAT than is it common or not?

Moreover, 110% is MINIMUM which means that someone may require 120%, 130%, 300% etc

But what this will give to Assured party????

Are You sure that insurance company will reimburse any loses which are out of CIF value of the goods.

How You'll prove Your 10% <20%, 30%, 200%> extra looses, IF MINIMUM RISK COVERAGE DOESN'T PROVIDE FOR ANY LOSES OTHER THAN LOST OF THE GOODS and no extras (such as "a minimal refund for the work that the importer has met in this unfair occasion", loss of profit ...) are covered by the policy.

IMHO, You'll never get even 1 dollar more than actually proved looses which are included and covered by the policy notwithstanding how much percents are added as extra insurance.

Then for what I'm paying extra premiums???

Awaiting for further comments.

Thanks a lot in advance 

pan
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interesting report

Who decides the insured value?

When taking out the insurance cover (voyage police) or when declaring the
value of a shipment (open
cover), the insurer asks the assured to state
the insured value without requiring evidence. The premium to be paid by the
assured is calculated on the basis of this amount.

As far as cargo
insurance is concerned, the insured value is
equal to the actual value of the property, i.e. its fair value plus, where applicable, the
commercial operator’s expected profit. Unlike the provisions of the hull policy,
the concept of agreed value does not exist in cargo
insurance.

If increased value insurance is effected,
this has no impact on the analysis above, since this type of insurance is taken
out to account for either successive increases in the value of the cargo while
in transit within international markets or successive sales that have occurred
during the insurance period.

Theoretically, the assured is free to set the amount of the insured
value. In reality, it is important to exercise due caution when setting this
amount, bearing in mind the following principles at all times:

  • Cargo insurance is a form of property
    insurance, which provides cover only for physical
    loss and damage, loss in weight or quantity sustained by the goods, plus any
    expenses incurred to replace such loss or damage, expenses incurred due to an
    interruption in or termination of the voyage, except in the event of financial
    default on the part of the carrier, general average contribution and expenses,
    and fees paid to the surveyor or the average agent.
    This type of insurance does not cover the following:
    damage caused by the insured goods; liability, regardless of the grounds; or the
    consequences of obstacles to the commercial operation of the
    assured.
  • Nature of the insurance: compensation
    for the loss sustained. As a general and absolute
    principle of law, in no case can the compensation paid to the assured exceed the
    amount that would have been received if the carriage had been performed without
    loss or damage to the goods. Therefore, it is in the interest of the assured to
    work out the insured value carefully, so that full settlement will be
    forthcoming in the event of an insured occurrence.

Under the general conditions of the standard policies, there
are four possible methods for calculating the value to be insured:

  • cost price of the goods at destination, plus
    expected profit
  • value at destination on the date of arrival, in
    accordance with the rates set by public authorities or qualified professional
    groups, or, if such is not the case, by sworn brokers
  • value stipulated in the sales contract, if the
    assured is the seller
  • replacement value of manufactured
    goods.

When a claim is filed, the
insurer may request evidence of the actual value of the goods.

  • If the assured can prove that the insured value has
    been calculated on the basis of one of the aforementioned methods, the insurer
    will not contest the claim and will use the insured value as a basis for
    settlement.
  • If the assured cannot demonstrate the amount of the
    expected profit, the insured value will be the cost price of the goods at
    destination, plus a lump sum of 20% (maximum authorized
    overvaluation).
  • If the assured requests cover for the replacement
    value, it is necessary to prove that the damaged goods have been effectively
    replaced and produce the relevant invoices.

NB – Except in the
event of a total loss, the insurer will compare the value of the cargo in
damaged condition with its value in sound condition at destination, to assess
the loss sustained and calculate a percentage of loss. For claims settlement
purposes, the insurer will apply this percentage of loss not to the actual value
of the cargo in sound condition but to the insured value (sum insured) that the
assured has decided on. Because of the proportional rule, it is in the latter’s
interest not to underinsure the cargo.



Revaluation of the insured value during the period of cover

If, during the period of cover,
the assured considers that, for any reason, the actual value of the goods has
become higher than the insured value, a request for increase in value may be
made. If this increase in value is accepted by the insurer, an endorsement will
be signed, provided that the assured was not aware of the occurrence of an event
before making the request.

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Frammi
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What a lot of Work on Christmas!!

Mille gracie Pan!


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Best regards

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jinugu
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Insurance and prominent 110%

The
compensation payable will be strictly restricted to the cost of
repair/replacement of such damage. The insured cannot claim for any
consequential loss like loss of profits etc in an insurance policy. However this principle is modified
in Marine Transit Insurance permitting inclusion of the profit element up to a
maximum of 10% of the C.I.F. value.

Trust this clarifies.

Frammi
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Insurance Cover depends on the underlying clauses

So take a look at the insurance covers given to you and if you want to stay on the safe side, always care for an insurance on your own and don't buy an a CIF / CIP-Basis.

Any country and insurance company has its own rules and clauses.

-Each long journey starts with a small step-

Best regards

Frammi