Replacement of Documents after presentation time

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student
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Dear experts:

We have a LC wherein

Expiry Feb 15, 2010 in Benf. country

Last Ship. Date Jan 25, 2010

Presentation Period: 15 after BL date but within validity of LC.

We presented documents on Feb 09, 2010.  Our bank pointed out a discripancy that date of Cover note is incorrect in shipment advice. 

We asked our bank on Feb 10, 2010 we can replace this dox but bank is insisting that after presentation period you may not replace a documents, it will be consider late presentation although LC is not expire.

 Is our bank right??

plz comments.

regards

 

smmujeeb
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Replacement of Documents after presentation time

My Experience : Bene can correct the docs at any point of time, even after expiry date.

What negotiating bank can do : Nego bank can allow bene to correct the docs and mention in its covering scheudule that docs have been presented within presentation period.

As the LC is expired in bene country ...

Regards!!!!

Mujeeb :-) 

Abrar
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Hi Mujeeb

With regard to your comment in the second paragraph, I should point out that the only instance where a negotiating bank is permitted (or required) to provide such a declaration, is in instances where the latest presentation date or LC expiry date falls on a non-banking day of the negotiating bank. Art. 29 (a) of UCP600 refers.

If the bank were to certify to a statement as alluded to in your second para., it would amount to a misrepresentation of fact. In this case, I doubt whether it would find recourse under UCP, should events turn sour with the issuing bank.  

student
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Necessary correction and correction stamp

Hi experts,

After presentation period but within validty period Can we make correction in any dox and put correction stamp.  IS IT Discripancy or not????????

 

Abrar
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Late presentation

You can correct documents and re-present up to any time, whether after the latest presentation period or even after the expiry date. But, the point is that whilst the discrepancy in the document may have been corrected, if you present after the latest presentation period, you will automatically incur a discrepancy of 'late presentation', and if presented after LC expiry, you will incur a discrepancy of 'LC expired', even if the documents are otherwise in order. The presentation will be discrepant for being presented out of time. This is what your negotiating bank is trying to tell you, although it appears, perhaps none too clearly.

Abrar
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Late presentation

You state that the latest shipment date is 25.1.10 but do not mention the actual shipment date. But, assuming the shipment date is 25.1.10, you have a period of 15 days after this date to present documents, or re-present corrected (or additional) documents under the same presentation, as many times as you like. In your case, this latest date would be 9.2.10. Any presentation outside this time limit would incur an automatic discrepancy of "late presentation" regardless of whether the presentation is otherwise compliant, and whether it may have been presented within LC expiry.

So, I'm afraid the bank is correct.

You may be interested to view this thread in which a similar issue was discussed: http://www.letterofcreditforum.com/content/discrepancy-removal-period

It is usually conventional to stipulate the presentation period to be the same as the period between the latest date of shipment and the expiry date. Unusually, (though workable), in the above case, I note that whilst the presentation period is 15 days, the period between the latest shipment date and the expiry date is 21 days.

bob_exports
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Dear Abrar,

The question I believe is the replacement of a document already presented with a corrected version. As the beneficiary's bank has up to 5 banking days after presentation to read those documents, my experience is that the negotiating bank will allow a document to be replaced or indeed a missing document to be presented. This means that by the time limit the negotiating bank will be in a position to send of the presentation as compliant. My experience is that negotiating banks see their role as assisting the beneficiary in making their docs compliant, not being a policeman saying "tough, you've broken the rules so you pay the penalty." There is nothing in UCP600 or ISBP681 which instructs either way.

Re the question of making a correction to an existing document and the need to stamp or authenticate the correction, if this is a cover note then it will be issued by a party other than the beneficiary. ISBP681 para 9 covers this. If it is the beneficiary's own document, para 10 covers.

kelares
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presentation of docs by sec

Dear SIR ,

I have aproblem in proccess of transferable L/C for presentation of docs step to step ?

how it be effect on transferable L/C ?

Would appreciate for your kind attention

Best Regards

KELARES

Abrar
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Transferable LCs

This is a very exhaustive subject, and there is a wide body of reference on the internet, but as a guide you could review this thread in whicih a forum member has given some concise steps.

http://www.letterofcreditforum.com/content/how-get-profit-transferable-lc

You could also review : 

http://www.letterofcreditforum.com/content/transferable-letter-credit-0