CIP terms

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faubeda
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Dears,

 

I have a question. I have a possible order on CIP TERMS basis. I know what it means, however my question is:

 Is the Letter of Credit payment starting counting down on CIP Basis? I mean, from the arrival of the goods at destination? or... is it possible to specify on the LC that will be paid (at sight, 30, 60, xx days) on loading.

 

Thanks

 

Francisco

spain

phill doran
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Hello Francisco

If you understand your terms, as a SELLER in a C-prefixed sale, your ‘right to be paid’ arises in the country of origin. Although your costs end in the country of destination, the risk of non-arrival is the buyer’s not the seller’s.

In a CIP/CPT sale, the seller’s contract ends on handover to the first carrier in the country of supply.

Although there is no connection between the seller’s commercial terms and the elected payment mechanism, the ‘credit’ is a common choice. The beneficiary gets paid by the bank for documents evidencing dispatch of the goods, freight prepaid. The arrival of the cargo is irrelevant.

Gold medal under CIP: the beneficiary is asked to tender a transport document ‘evidencing the taking in charge’ of the goods by a named carrier. The seller now contracts with their elected carrier, hands over at the seller’s ‘works’ and receives a freight prepaid multi-modal transport document (or similar) issued by the named carrier. The beneficiary now takes that to the bank and if all is found compliant etc, the beneficiary gets paid under the conditions of the credit. If this is 60-days from presentation or on presentation, it is a matter of finance only. Payment is 'guaranteed', regardless of whether the buyer gets the goods.

My concern is your mention of payment linked to ‘arrival at destination’. If this is a condition of the credit, then it is inconstant with your intentions as a seller i.e. it is no longer a CIP (or any C-prefixed) contract, but more of a D-prefixed contract.

If you really are selling on a C-prefix, arrival is not a condition you need to contemplate.

I hope this helps…

cheers

phill doran

 ...thus: another step on the road to mercantile enlightenment...

bob_exports
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Hi,

Let's go a step further. It is a safe bet that the L/C will require an "on board" B/L yet that is not the point where delivery takes place for CIP, as you said, it is when the seller hands the goods to the first carrier. So the L/C should call for a "received for shipment" multimodal transport document without needing it to state "on board."

Bob