HELLO!
I'VE A QUERY REGARDING PRESENTATION OF DOCS. UNDER EXPIRED L/C (ISSUED UNDER UCP 600). SUPPOSE, BENEFICIARY HAS SUBMITTED DOCS. TO HIS NOMINATED BANK WHICH SUBSEQUENTLY SENDS THE DOCS. TO THE ISSUING BANK ON COLLECTION BASIS, NOT AGAINST ANY PRE-APPROVAL RECEIVED FROM ISSUING BANK. UNDER WHAT RULE (UCP 600 OR URC-522) SHOULD THE ISSUING BANK HANDLE THE DOCS.? AGAIN, WHAT'S THE EXACT WORDINGS THAT SHOULD BE WRITTEN IN THE DOC. FORWARDING SCHEDULE PREPARED BY THE NOMINATED BANK?
CIAO...
RASHED
The issuing bank has no obligation to send refusal of documents when credit expired. So I think documents have to be send on collection basis, URC 522. Naturally the ben. bank will try to obtain proceeds asap. In the past docs have been sent "IN TRUST", indicating a maturity date(15 - 20 days) in order to ask for the fate immediately after said maturity date. Transport documents as negotiable bill of lading or awb consigned to issuing bank will help to get payment, if the relationship between parties involved is good.
Ciao
If presented under UCP 600 the bank has the duty to reject docs in due time, i.e. latest within 5 banking days after receipt of docs. If they fail, they have to honour the presentation.
Of course I agree that it would be desirable that if docs were presented to them, openly stating a discrepancy, this rejection should not be necessary and the issuing bank should have more time to contact applicants for a waiver, but even under the new rules this is not covered.
That's why any bank should treat any presentation, if openly stating to be discrepant or not, as if no indication of a discrepancy was made.
Considering the initial question, I would recommend to issue the presentation under the credit and under the UCP 600. No one is forced to openly state any discrepancy. But if anyone does, the wording is not so essential. I would avoid the wording "collection basis" as someone might erroneousely feel the presentation was not made under the credit.
A further advantage of a presentation under the credit is the following:
Imagine that an applicant is a quickly growing company, always in lack of credit limits. If the presentation amount is a considerable one, let's say USD 1,000,000.00, the issuing bank and the applicant would definitely prefer a presentation under the credit, as by paying docs under the the credit lines would be definitely relieved, whereas under a credit, especially if expiring in another country, the issuing bank might want to wait for a certain time whether credit docs were still presented or not. A collection might not fit in the remaining credit lines and get paid later - when the credit is finally cancelled. Another reason for a presentation under the credit!
-Each long journey starts with a small step-
Best regards
Frammi
Sorry Frammi, but in doc. 470/TA 122 dd 17.02.1998 the ICC stated that a documents presentation after credit expiry can not be considered under UCP 500.
Nothing changed with UCP 600.
However is very interesting chatting with you.
Ciao
even if almost any court would share our view, there might be some who do not. That's why I prefer the cautious stance and "reject whereever and whenever necessary or maybe-necessary". (In most cases I receive a waiver, before the five days have elapsed.)
I fount the following comment of Carter Klein (Jenner & Block, Chicago) based on the November 5, 2005 draft of the UCP 600:
quote
Five days is the time limit; reasonable time requirement is removed. The 5 day maximum period for examination of documents does not depend on any upcoming
expiry date or latest date for presentation.
unquote
A judge might see such a statement as a confirmation that even if a credit has expired, it still must be rejected.
In fact, whether a credit is discrepant because of L/C expired or late presentation doesn't make a lot of difference, does it? The credit is definitely "dead".
On the other hand the position papers were explicitly rendered invalid for the UCP 600, the opinions are kept "secret" by the ICC Paris and no indication on whether a rejection has to take place or not if the credit has expired, can be found in the UCP 600 or the ISBP 2007!
So, we couldn't found our reasoning on the most important Rules.
Maybe I'm too over-cautious, but rejecting in due time can only be of any good to the issuing bank, or not?
On the other hand, you have opened my eyes for the case, where I should receive docs after expiry of the credit and where I might have neglected such a rejection. "Holland is not yet lost!"
-Each long journey starts with a small step-
Best regards
Frammi
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