bank credit/finance based on payment instruments -question for bankers

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s7r1
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Hello,

I have a question and I would need the point of view from bankers on this. I want to know, if a company has some amounts to be received in future, but at a certain date (in 30, 60 days, etc.) can a bank pay that amount and when the payment date comes, they take the amount back with interest? But all this without asking for any other guarantee from the client like mortgage or collateral cash.

I have some promissory notes (goods were delivered, accepted and promissory note was released for payment but with date after 60 days). I would like to cashout about 90% from the amount written on these as fast as possible. Can i make this happen? I have heard that there are some insurance companies which make insurance policies on these promissory notes, something like if the company whom issued the promissory won't payup, the insurance company will pay to the bank instead. This way the bank has guarnatee to give credit, with no other guarantees requested from the client. Is this true ? Can you tell me few names of companies and exact procedure how this works?

P.S: Promissory note is the most used payment instrument in my country, it's like a cheque (CEC) issued and endorsed by bank, not everybody can issue such promissory notes so the cases where promissory notes don't turn into cash at said date are very rare.

Can you think of any smart way to get credit in this situation? I know this question is to be asked at the bank, but there are over 50 banks avaiable and only very few of them have this product in their portofolio so asking here is more appropiate for starters. As soon as I have more information from you experts, surely I will go and discuss to all banks.

Waiting anxiously for your thoughts! Thanks in advance.

 

s7r1
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any idea of insurance companies

 I heard some insurance companies exist which insure these bills, in the name of the bank. In this case the bank will have more security in discounting the notes.... however I'm not sure where to look for such companies in my country.

 

 And secondly, is there any international bank available which would finance my needs? Can i make something overborders? 

Thanks.

 

 

psaint
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hi s7r1, in addition to the

hi s7r1,

in addition to the solution given by abrar, you would need to take into account of your local laws and regulation. factoring and forfaiting are done without recourse to the beneficiary and this is disallowed in some local regulations. hence international factoring might be an issue there. also export insurances are one of the key elements in factoring and you might run into locations where these are sparse. your banker would be the best bet to offer you a solution here.

you could share the location and country you are from and this might help the rest to see if they can put you onto to some contacts in the banking community.

cheers

s7r1
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hello

sorry for missing info my country is Romania -(EU)

psaint
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hi s7r1, adding to what pan

hi s7r1,

adding to what pan has said, it would depend on the credit of the promissory note i'd say. that this would be a post shipment and therefore self liquidating in nature would be a risk mitigant in itself. however a bank would look at the credit standing on the the party who has promissed to pay under the draft. if they are credit worthy, then the bank would be willing to discount or forfait (mostly discount) without other collateral.

if these drafts are drawn, presented and accepted under an lc, then you have a much better chance at a bank accepting to finance these bills.

hope this helps.

cheers

Abrar
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Forfaiting

You may wish to explore the possibility of an ECA ( Export Credit Agency) who would be willing to underwrite the risk of non-payment by the promissor, or obligor. This would make it attractive for purchase of the notes/bills by a forfaiter ( negating sovereign credit and political risk) and allow the forfaiter to purchase/discount without recourse, and book its own exposure against the ECA rather than the drawee. Most OECD countries will have an export credit agency designed to provide such support to exporters.

pan
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Your Country

Hi friend,

I think that the transaction is discount without recourse or forfaiting.

I dont know if it is possible in your Country.

Ciao