Dear experts,
here is the case described below:
we have an l/c:
issued by bank X through bank Y. Bank Y advise further beneficiary's bank : Bank Z which advise the beneficiary.
l/c is available with Bank Y by deff payment: 7 days after sight;
l/c states: negotiation should be done only by first advising bank; presentation of documents is restricted on Bank Y counters; perioad of presentation: 21 days; late shipment: 21.12.2014; B/L shows on board date: 06.11.2014
now, the beneficiary presents docs to their bank: Bank Z and the bank found the following discrepancies: LATE PRESENTATION and INSPECTION CERTIFICATE NOT PRESENTED.
Given the above: how Bank Z need to proceed in this case ? What instructions have to received from their client and further Bank Z shoud send docs to Bank Y without mentioning the discrepancies or not ? in this case Bank Z has only the advising bank quality not negotiation bank. Could Bank Z to advise only its client about the founded discrepancies and just to send the docs without mentioning the discrepancies ?
Another question is: Bank Y requirement in their MT710: Docs need to be remitted only through a bank which need to confirm presenter's authenticity. What does it mean ? How shall be done ?
I am waiting your valuabsle comments/advices
R.
Dear All,
I have a question on the Foreign Currency realization date against export proceed, considering the following points –
1. Export under LC –
2. Payment terms – 60 days from B/L date
3. LC advising bank – XYZ, India, LC confirming bank – XYZ, Zurich
4. Exporter present documents for negotiation with XYZ bank, India and XYZ bank, India has remit the payment after received documents confirmation from XYZ, Zurich. It will take 7-10 days from the date of documents presentation.
Then what will be the actual foreign currency realization date? 1. Date of received the payment against documents negotiation or the actual payment received by the bank on maturity i.e. 60 days from B/L date.
Please advice with explanation……..
It is clear that only Bank Y has the authority of the issuing bank to act as a nominated bank and negotiate the documents. Bank Z in this case is acting simply as a post office in advising the beneficiary. There is no requirement for the beneficiary to allow Bank Z to check documents but if the beneficiary elects to use this service of Bank Z, Bank Z will provide this service without responsibility or engagament on its part. If discrepancies are found by Bank Z, the beneficiary should be well adviosed to correct the disrepancies if possible. If not possible, the beneficiary should simply request Bank Z to forward documents on approval to Bank Y and ensure that Bank Y receives the documents within the expiry date of the LC. There is no need to mention any discrepancies on the covering schedule and any discrepancies found by Bank Y would be conveyed to Bank Z for further communication to the beneficiary.
Regarding Bank Y's requirement to authenticate, assuming that the benefiociary manintians an account with Bank Z, if Bank Z's covering schedule were to contain a clause such as : " Without responsibility or engagement on our part, we confirm that the beneficiary (XYZ Co) maintains an account at our bank (or relevant branch) and all relevant due diligence procecss has been conducted in respect of this relationship.
In any case, my view is that Bank Y has no right to require this information as a condition for making payment as such conditions are outside the scope of the UCP and also, the fact that the payment is to be made by Bank Y to Bank Z and not direct to the beneficiary should provide adequate comfort (assuming that Bank Y and Bank Z are already in a pre-existing correspondent relationship) to Bank Y that payment under the LC is being legitimately made. As for documents, neither Bank Z (nor Bank Y) should concern themselves with the authenticity of the documents provided that at face value, there is no reason to believe that the doucments may be unauthentic or fraudulent
Hi Friend,
the l/c is poorly worded. However the bank Z following the beneficiary's instructions will send documents to bank Y, where the l/c was available, and wait.
On receipt of advice of refusal, under beneficiary's consent will instruct the bank Y properly.
IMHO, bank Z is the advising bank, specially if the l/c has been issued by Swift and bank Y is the nominated bank.
I thnk that due to KYC AML rules the issuing bank requires the identification of beneficiary by the bank Z.
Other comments appreciated
Ciao
Hi again,
Another question is: Bank Y requirement in their MT710: Docs need to be remitted only through a bank which need to confirm presenter's authenticity. What does it mean ? How shall be done ?
On the cover letter, we shall insert a clause referring to presenter's authenticity, but how should sound that clause ?
thanks and regards
R.
Hi PAN,
Thanks for your comments. Yes, l/c has been issued by swift to Bank Y ( which has quality of nominated bank ) which further forward by MT710 to beneficiary's bank - Bank Z.
I have 2 questions: what do you mean by: " under beneficiary's consent will instruct the bank Y properly.". What consent ? for what instruction ?
When we are talking about negotiation bank , we must have an l/c available by negotiation ? correct ? in this case, Bank Y does not have the quality of negotiation bank ...it's only nominated bank ? is that correct ?
yr comments always valuable !!!
R.
Hi Friend,
If the credit is available with ......, it must also say by.... negotiation, payment, def payment or acceptance in order to qualify the action of the bank. If present another bank in field 57, this will be the advising bank, that may only receive documents by beneficiary and send them to the nominated bank on collection.
You have to check full details to act properly.
My sentence refers to the answer of the refusal message sent from the nominated bank to the presenting bank, nominated bank, if not confirming, is not obliged to act if not expressly stated its disposal in the transmittal message to advising bank.
The answer to the refusal message is given under beneficiary'd instructions, and may be written on the covering letter:
p.e." In case of discrepant documents please send them to issuing bank for approval" or "please contact issuing bank and
obtain the consent to send discrepant documents" etc.
So it is difficult to list all the actions that banks may do in handling discrepant documents.
It depends on experience and expertise, normally a l/c is a mean of payments and not a hamper.
Ciao
HI,
NOBODY ADVISE THE SUBJECT ?
THANKS
R.
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